Comments on: ‘Escapist’ interview behind ‘The Truth About 4th Ed’ http://direkraken.com/rpg/escapist-interview-behind-the-truth-about-4th-ed/ Monstrous coverage of all things geeky. Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:04:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Wolfgod http://direkraken.com/rpg/escapist-interview-behind-the-truth-about-4th-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Wolfgod Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:12:22 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=198#comment-183 Point taken - except they actually lost their 'old fans'. We're not placing our gaming dollars in the D&D revenue stream anymore - they're going to Pathfinder products. I'd be like if they altered Baseball, but another league started up where they were playing 'old school' baseball, and you had a choice which one to spend money on. I agree with a lot of Avaril's points. I don't see why 4th ed is trying to pull in the MMO player. In an MMO, the computer does the math *for you*. Why would I play something else with no graphics where I have to do math? It isn't like MMO's are going away or getting worse. I think D&D will struggle to be relevant with a version of the game that is just MMO pen-and-paper. I have plenty of friends who play 4e, and they seem to enjoy it - bit as Avaril pointed out, we play VERY story-heavy games, while most of these players are hacking through dungeon crawls. I'll stick with Pathfinder, thanks. :) Point taken – except they actually lost their ‘old fans’. We’re not placing our gaming dollars in the D&D revenue stream anymore – they’re going to Pathfinder products. I’d be like if they altered Baseball, but another league started up where they were playing ‘old school’ baseball, and you had a choice which one to spend money on.

I agree with a lot of Avaril’s points. I don’t see why 4th ed is trying to pull in the MMO player. In an MMO, the computer does the math *for you*. Why would I play something else with no graphics where I have to do math? It isn’t like MMO’s are going away or getting worse. I think D&D will struggle to be relevant with a version of the game that is just MMO pen-and-paper.

I have plenty of friends who play 4e, and they seem to enjoy it – bit as Avaril pointed out, we play VERY story-heavy games, while most of these players are hacking through dungeon crawls.

I’ll stick with Pathfinder, thanks. :)

]]> By: Roger L. Mills http://direkraken.com/rpg/escapist-interview-behind-the-truth-about-4th-ed/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Roger L. Mills Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:26:46 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=198#comment-182 I am a hardcore baseball fan, and frankly baseball doesn't really market its game to me. There just aren't enough true hardcore baseball types like me out there to make baseball profitable, and they've already got me anyhow, so they try to mass market their appeal instead. I am assuming Wizards has done their homework and has seen the average age of their playing community trending upwards. At some point they already have the "old folks", but where are the next generation of D&D players coming from? Are new gamers really simply being syphoned off into the computer gaming world? How can wizards get these players to put down their game controller and instead sit at a table for 2-3 hours with their friends and actually play a pencil and paper game? It's a business strategy. They are taking a risk. Some will like it, some won't, and some will just bitch about it no matter what they do. So yes, they may not actually be marketing to me or you. And yes, I think they should have stuck with the OGL too, but that's another topic. My $.02, rlm I am a hardcore baseball fan, and frankly baseball doesn’t really market its game to me. There just aren’t enough true hardcore baseball types like me out there to make baseball profitable, and they’ve already got me anyhow, so they try to mass market their appeal instead.

I am assuming Wizards has done their homework and has seen the average age of their playing community trending upwards. At some point they already have the “old folks”, but where are the next generation of D&D players coming from? Are new gamers really simply being syphoned off into the computer gaming world? How can wizards get these players to put down their game controller and instead sit at a table for 2-3 hours with their friends and actually play a pencil and paper game?

It’s a business strategy. They are taking a risk. Some will like it, some won’t, and some will just bitch about it no matter what they do.

So yes, they may not actually be marketing to me or you. And yes, I think they should have stuck with the OGL too, but that’s another topic.

My $.02,

rlm

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