Mounts in Pathfinder

   Posted by: Wolfgod   in Advice & Tools, Fantasy, Pathfinder, RPG

Lately we’ve been looking into using a lot of different mounts in Pathfinder, and run into some interesting questions.

The relationship between rider and horse is complex - the horse has a mind of its own, but can be guided by the skill of it’s rider.  So, what if the rider has a special skill, like Evasion?  Will the mount benefit from this skill?

I can certainly understand a ruling that says while the rider might well use his Evasion ability for a reflex save that affects both rider and mount, he can’t very well help the horse dodge.  Granted, but what if we assume for the moment that the mount has Evasion?  If the mount makes its save, would it not also carry the rider to safety in some fashion?

What if the mount is intelligent?  Say for example my loyal War Griffon has Evasion and we’re fireballed.  The Griffon saves … can I fail?

I know the rules as written would simply have both mount and rider affected seperately, ignoring for the most part the complication of riding.  I’m just curious if there might be a better mechanism or perhaps future feat tree that would focus more on mounted combat, or mounted combat on an intelligent mount …

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I have run this question through a couple of forums and the answers have come up pretty consistent: evasion on one creature does not confer it to the other.

Here’s how it was put:
“Your mount has evasion and manages to find a place that’s safer from the effect for itself, that leaves you sitting on it’s back completely exposed to the effect since it’s not worrying about you at the moment.

You have evasion and manage to find a place that’s safer from the effect for yourself. The thing is it’s more then likely that place is the opposite side of your mount from the effect. By ducking down to one side and using the mount itself as cover you keep yourself safer at the cost of your riding companion.”

Reflex saves are an instinctual reaction. The vast majority of creatures save themselves first and then (maybe an instant later) think about saving someone else. That fireball only lasts an instant…

This is pretty much a justification of the Rules as Written and not necessarily an accurate depiction of what /should/ be. If someone has valid reasons for it to be otherwise, please voice them. I want to be wrong.

November 10th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

I can see that side of things, but on the other hand, what happens if your mount has uncanny dodge? Would it keep the rider from being flanked? I guess I could see not …

What if there was a feat tree that would let you benefit from your mounts abilities?

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