Comments on: My First 4e Experience (Or, comparing editions to Operating Systems) http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/ Monstrous coverage of all things geeky. Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:55:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Wolfgod http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Wolfgod Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:38:19 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-62 I've played D6 based systems - Star Wars and the like. I thought it was adequate, but I've found I prefer the D20 Star Wars based stuff. (I know, burn the heretic and all that). It's certainly a viable game system, but it just doesn't catch fire with me for a fantasy system. -- You're right, I'm probably underestimating DOS. :) It was a pretty good system for it's day. Now I'm wondering when Avaril will post about last night's 4e game ... and what he'll say about us. :-D I’ve played D6 based systems – Star Wars and the like. I thought it was adequate, but I’ve found I prefer the D20 Star Wars based stuff. (I know, burn the heretic and all that). It’s certainly a viable game system, but it just doesn’t catch fire with me for a fantasy system.

– You’re right, I’m probably underestimating DOS. :) It was a pretty good system for it’s day.

Now I’m wondering when Avaril will post about last night’s 4e game … and what he’ll say about us. :-D

]]> By: Viriatha http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Viriatha Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:26:56 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-61 It seems to be. West End Games keeps running into financial trouble so the game doesn't get the marketing it deserves while being an extremely flexible system. But like UNIX, it's not for a beginner. It's flexible because it's rule-lite and leaves alot for a GM to fill in with his players. It seems to be. West End Games keeps running into financial trouble so the game doesn’t get the marketing it deserves while being an extremely flexible system.

But like UNIX, it’s not for a beginner. It’s flexible because it’s rule-lite and leaves alot for a GM to fill in with his players.

]]> By: Shent http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Shent Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:19:55 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-60 I think of 4e more like a mobile phone OS it tries to do everything in one tight package, but when really put to task it is marginal at best at doing what you want it to do. I keep meeting players that were totally hyped up by 4e, but after a couple months have returned to 3.x because it holds there interest better. I like 4e as a DM but not so much as a player. two reasons: Once a day magic item usage, and because of skill challenges being played out poorly by inexperienced DMs and module authors; those two items break the fun for me. Maybe Pathfinder is like OSX. it is an opportunistic system taking advantage of the WoTC system change and slowly stealing gamers away by giving them something they are more comfortable playing. The D6 game keep popping up in circles too, is that like OS2 Warp? I think of 4e more like a mobile phone OS it tries to do everything in one tight package, but when really put to task it is marginal at best at doing what you want it to do. I keep meeting players that were totally hyped up by 4e, but after a couple months have returned to 3.x because it holds there interest better. I like 4e as a DM but not so much as a player. two reasons: Once a day magic item usage, and because of skill challenges being played out poorly by inexperienced DMs and module authors; those two items break the fun for me. Maybe Pathfinder is like OSX. it is an opportunistic system taking advantage of the WoTC system change and slowly stealing gamers away by giving them something they are more comfortable playing. The D6 game keep popping up in circles too, is that like OS2 Warp?

]]> By: Avaril http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Avaril Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:43:07 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-59 Interesting. I haven't played d6 since WEG's Star Wars game. It'd be interesting to look at again. Interesting. I haven’t played d6 since WEG’s Star Wars game. It’d be interesting to look at again.

]]> By: Viriatha http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Viriatha Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:11:53 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-58 Yes. I'd say just yes but then it flags this as spam and won't let me post so - yes, twice. Yes. I’d say just yes but then it flags this as spam and won’t let me post so – yes, twice.

]]> By: Avaril http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Avaril Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:04:09 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-57 D6, as in West End Games?? D6, as in West End Games??

]]> By: Viriatha http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Viriatha Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:41:54 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-56 Check out the D6 systems - UNIX in a box. No classes, no levels, you can add any skills hey don't have, create any power, take away any disadvantage. Seriously. Check out the D6 systems – UNIX in a box. No classes, no levels, you can add any skills hey don’t have, create any power, take away any disadvantage.

Seriously.

]]> By: Avaril http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Avaril Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:22:39 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-55 I don't think I'm underestimating 3.5. I think you're underestimating DOS. DOS was a good system. It did its job well. You could write batch files that did some things that needed to be done, but it wasn't nearly as flexible as UNIX. It really took parts of UNIX (and CP/M), and made them accessible to the everyday user. I don’t think I’m underestimating 3.5. I think you’re underestimating DOS. DOS was a good system. It did its job well. You could write batch files that did some things that needed to be done, but it wasn’t nearly as flexible as UNIX. It really took parts of UNIX (and CP/M), and made them accessible to the everyday user.

]]> By: Wolfgod http://direkraken.com/rpg/my-first-4e-experience-or-comparing-editions-to-operating-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Wolfgod Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:11:26 +0000 http://direkraken.com/?p=92#comment-54 3.5 as DOS? Seriously? Dude, is way better than that. 3.5 does have flaws, and it requires you *know* the system to play it, but it's hardly DOS. 1st Edition would be DOS. 3.5 isn't UNIX either - you can't customize enough - but it ain't DOS. The utterly modular game system we've discussed would be UNIX - no classes, just buy the stuff you wanna use - that'd be UNIX. 4e won't be OSX ... I don't think there's an RPG rules set yet written that works as well as that. I think 4e is Vista. Pretty, and supposed to be better, but mainly annoying changes you weren't sure were totally necessary to begin with. :) 3.5 as DOS? Seriously? Dude, is way better than that. 3.5 does have flaws, and it requires you *know* the system to play it, but it’s hardly DOS. 1st Edition would be DOS. 3.5 isn’t UNIX either – you can’t customize enough – but it ain’t DOS.

The utterly modular game system we’ve discussed would be UNIX – no classes, just buy the stuff you wanna use – that’d be UNIX.

4e won’t be OSX … I don’t think there’s an RPG rules set yet written that works as well as that.

I think 4e is Vista. Pretty, and supposed to be better, but mainly annoying changes you weren’t sure were totally necessary to begin with. :)

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